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Coloneh · Dec 28, 2007, 08:12 PM // 20:12

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Originally Posted by MisterMax

I just want to know what can hit the highest dps in the lowest amount of time.

well, that would be an assassin, but when we talk about DPS it usually means sustained. sounds like you want to know about a spike...

Njaiguni Blaze · Dec 28, 2007, 08:36 PM // 20:36

Highest spike possible is someone using Grenth's Balance on you while he/she has 1 HP.

Tyla · Dec 28, 2007, 08:47 PM // 20:47

'Sin

downfalls on survivability though

martialis · Dec 28, 2007, 09:23 PM // 21:23

[skill]Famine[/skill][skill]Sympathetic Visage[/skill]
R/Me

As always, you have to specify whether you mean real damage or dragon slash.

Age · Dec 28, 2007, 10:59 PM // 22:59

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Originally Posted by Darren Blacktail

Yes that would be true in PvP, but for someone such as myself who plays PvE mostly, DPS can be very valueable, warriors and assassins have the best DPS for a single target, on the other hand, over multiple targets, the Dervish is clear winner in PvE where mobs seem to clump together.
It comes down to the skill of the player and the build they use to determine the best DPS of a single class.

My 2 cents

Warriors can alway switch targets they don't need to be attacking one all the time.

Thanks Rotten for posting that I have it all except that last skill.

Zamochit · Dec 28, 2007, 11:16 PM // 23:16

I believe the highest possible spike from one character is an MM with 10 minions all enchanted with Death nova using signet of creation and waiting for 30 seconds....BOOM (at 16 death magic it should be 1050 damage all at once.)

Master Knightfall · Dec 29, 2007, 06:38 AM // 06:38

Touch Rangers have the highest dps can kill both warrior and sin at same time attacking me. Therefore touch ranger best dpser of all.

Mortal Amongst Mere Gods · Dec 29, 2007, 06:46 AM // 06:46

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Originally Posted by Master Knightfall

Touch Rangers have the highest dps can kill both warrior and sin at same time attacking me. Therefore touch ranger best dpser of all.

I feel like being spiteful now cause war and sin are my fav professions. No, touchers don't achieve highest dps. Dps is damage per second. Touchers use health-stealing, a variant of health-loss. Health-loss is, by in game mechanics, different than damage.

Anyways, I think that Famine with Ancestor's Visage and Sympathetic Visage used against a mob of raptors would result in fairly high dps. That or your typical DSlash spam.

I also think that using the Strength of Honor+Judge's Insight could work as well with DB-MS spam sin.

Kale Ironfist · Dec 29, 2007, 09:59 AM // 09:59

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I feel like being spiteful now cause war and sin are my fav professions. No, touchers don't achieve highest dps. Dps is damage per second. Touchers use health-stealing, a variant of health-loss. Health-loss is, by in game mechanics, different than damage.

Actually, even if you count the health-loss as DPS, they still don't beat a Warrior at DPS.

arcanemacabre · Dec 29, 2007, 10:57 AM // 10:57

Single-target, sustainable DPS is definitely the Warrior, hands down. Probably sword (DS, as already mentioned). However, depending on the size and grouping of mobs, the Ele may win out as highest sustainable DPS overall. That's kinda hard to test, though. Of course, it also depends on the mob type and their armor/protection setup. Some types of damage may be great on one type, and horrid on another. Physicals generally win on that front because other than other warrior mobs (which only have an additional 20 armor vs. physical), it works on just about everything evenly.

Some awesome DPS, and it may be near the top if not at the top, is good old Order of Undeath MM'ing. Like all MMs, it takes a bit to get rolling, but then you are left with a virtually unstoppable killing machine.

BigDave · Dec 29, 2007, 01:30 PM // 13:30

DPS over a length of time isn't really a good measure of how good a character is at killing things, unless whatever you're fighting has no form of healing.

I'd agree that in general the Warrior has the highest sustainable DPS over a longer period of time. However other classes/builds can do far more damage to far more targets but that damage tends to come in "waves" with a cooldown period between. Like an Assassin for instance. A good sin can do a massive amount of damage to a single target in just a few seconds but usually has to wait before they can repeat the attack chain. A nuker Elementalist can pump out some insane damage over a short period to multiple targets but again has a large cooldown period before they can do it again and has the added trouble of keeping the foes in the AoE.

One combo i use a lot in PvE as an ele is dropping MS, echoed MS, SH, Teinei's Heat and Searing Heat all while under Mindbender. The whole combo takes 9 seconds to pull off (once Mindbender is up) and the damage lasts for around 10 seconds. If you can keep the targets in the AoE you'll be doing 1449 fire damage muliplied by the number of targets. That's a helluva lot of damage but for the time it takes to recharge you'll be doing very little. The DPS over those 10 secs could potentially be massive. The DPS over the course of say 1 minute is pretty low.

I wouldn't pay too much attention to DPS personally. More important is if you can kill your target or not.

byteme! · Dec 29, 2007, 09:09 PM // 21:09

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Originally Posted by BigDave

If you can keep the targets in the AoE you'll be doing 1449 fire damage muliplied by the number of targets. That's a helluva lot of damage but for the time it takes to recharge you'll be doing very little. The DPS over those 10 secs could potentially be massive. The DPS over the course of say 1 minute is pretty low.

I wouldn't pay too much attention to DPS personally. More important is if you can kill your target or not.

QFT! Not a single caster can match the DPS of a DS Warrior. Caster cool downs are a huge draw back to whatever DPS an Ele/Necro/Mes etc... could possibly do, even under ideal conditions. 10 seconds of massive dmg followed by wasted time waiting for e-regen or skill recharge is not good DPS. Not even close. The evidence is all there, just need to do the math to put it all into perspective.

Mortal Amongst Mere Gods · Dec 30, 2007, 01:33 AM // 01:33

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Originally Posted by arcanemacabre

Some awesome DPS, and it may be near the top if not at the top, is good old Order of Undeath MM'ing. Like all MMs, it takes a bit to get rolling, but then you are left with a virtually unstoppable killing machine.

I once used OoU with Vamp Horrors in Isle of the Nameless. It wrecks.

Vamp Horrors+more damage=more healing to cover extra sac and enough to sac for your minions. It does take time to build it up, but once you've got it, it'll steam roll the dummies.

Nevertheless, a warrior with EH+FGJ!+DS will probably keep ridiculously high dps going.

Spike · Dec 30, 2007, 06:23 AM // 06:23

If we are talking multi target spike damage beat this

done by my ele today

I Phoenix I · Dec 30, 2007, 08:16 AM // 08:16

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Originally Posted by Spike

If we are talking multi target spike damage beat this

done by my ele today

You're casting against a level 14 or lower monster right there...

I could probably achieve that if I fought a level 0 -.-

Njaiguni Blaze · Dec 30, 2007, 12:59 PM // 12:59

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Originally Posted by I Phoenix I

You're casting against a level 14 or lower monster right there...

I could probably achieve that if I fought a level 0 -.-

Not only are they low lvl, they are also less resistant to fire dmg than normal creatures.

steelblades · Dec 30, 2007, 01:35 PM // 13:35

Nah , an assassin spamming moeb strike with deathblossom + crit eye (chance of more energy) + critical agility (attacks very fast then )

Spike · Dec 30, 2007, 05:29 PM // 17:29

Where in the OP did it says i have to attack lvl 20's or they can't be less resistant to fire than normal. Even then in 15 seconds or less as stated in the OP an Ele WILL out DPS ANYTHING.

Earth · Dec 30, 2007, 06:03 PM // 18:03

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Originally Posted by Spike

Where in the OP did it says i have to attack lvl 20's or they can't be less resistant to fire than normal. Even then in 15 seconds or less as stated in the OP an Ele WILL out DPS ANYTHING.

No. A warrior does the highest DPS at level 20 against foes equal or above his level. This has been proved many times before. This is not about spike damage.

Where's Ensign when you need him?

Bowstring Badass · Dec 30, 2007, 06:18 PM // 18:18

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Originally Posted by X Earth X

Where's Ensign when you need him?

Good question...

Dec 28, 2007, 11:16 PM // 23:16	#26
Zamochit Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jul 2006 Profession: N/A	I believe the highest possible spike from one character is an MM with 10 minions all enchanted with Death nova using signet of creation and waiting for 30 seconds....BOOM (at 16 death magic it should be 1050 damage all at once.) Last edited by Zamochit; Dec 28, 2007 at 11:19 PM // 23:19..

Dec 28, 2007, 08:36 PM // 20:36	#22
Njaiguni Blaze Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2006 Location: The Netherlands Guild: The Biggyverse [PLEB] Profession: Me/	Highest spike possible is someone using Grenth's Balance on you while he/she has 1 HP.

Dec 28, 2007, 08:47 PM // 20:47	#23
Tyla Emo Goth Italics Join Date: Sep 2006	'Sin downfalls on survivability though

Dec 28, 2007, 09:23 PM // 21:23	#24
martialis Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: RA, reporting you	[skill]Famine[/skill][skill]Sympathetic Visage[/skill] R/Me As always, you have to specify whether you mean real damage or dragon slash.

Dec 29, 2007, 06:38 AM // 06:38	#27
Master Knightfall Banned Join Date: Dec 2007	Touch Rangers have the highest dps can kill both warrior and sin at same time attacking me. Therefore touch ranger best dpser of all.

Dec 29, 2007, 10:57 AM // 10:57	#30
arcanemacabre Grotto Attendant Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: North Kryta Province Guild: Angel Sharks [As]	Single-target, sustainable DPS is definitely the Warrior, hands down. Probably sword (DS, as already mentioned). However, depending on the size and grouping of mobs, the Ele may win out as highest sustainable DPS overall. That's kinda hard to test, though. Of course, it also depends on the mob type and their armor/protection setup. Some types of damage may be great on one type, and horrid on another. Physicals generally win on that front because other than other warrior mobs (which only have an additional 20 armor vs. physical), it works on just about everything evenly. Some awesome DPS, and it may be near the top if not at the top, is good old Order of Undeath MM'ing. Like all MMs, it takes a bit to get rolling, but then you are left with a virtually unstoppable killing machine.

Dec 29, 2007, 01:30 PM // 13:30	#31
BigDave Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Guild: The Sapphire Rose [TSR]	DPS over a length of time isn't really a good measure of how good a character is at killing things, unless whatever you're fighting has no form of healing. I'd agree that in general the Warrior has the highest sustainable DPS over a longer period of time. However other classes/builds can do far more damage to far more targets but that damage tends to come in "waves" with a cooldown period between. Like an Assassin for instance. A good sin can do a massive amount of damage to a single target in just a few seconds but usually has to wait before they can repeat the attack chain. A nuker Elementalist can pump out some insane damage over a short period to multiple targets but again has a large cooldown period before they can do it again and has the added trouble of keeping the foes in the AoE. One combo i use a lot in PvE as an ele is dropping MS, echoed MS, SH, Teinei's Heat and Searing Heat all while under Mindbender. The whole combo takes 9 seconds to pull off (once Mindbender is up) and the damage lasts for around 10 seconds. If you can keep the targets in the AoE you'll be doing 1449 fire damage muliplied by the number of targets. That's a helluva lot of damage but for the time it takes to recharge you'll be doing very little. The DPS over those 10 secs could potentially be massive. The DPS over the course of say 1 minute is pretty low. I wouldn't pay too much attention to DPS personally. More important is if you can kill your target or not.

Dec 30, 2007, 06:23 AM // 06:23	#34
Spike Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005 Location: In front of my PC Guild: Kai Profession: E/Mo	If we are talking multi target spike damage beat this done by my ele today

Dec 30, 2007, 01:35 PM // 13:35	#37
steelblades Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2007 Guild: MTV Profession: A/Mo	Nah , an assassin spamming moeb strike with deathblossom + crit eye (chance of more energy) + critical agility (attacks very fast then )

Dec 30, 2007, 05:29 PM // 17:29	#38
Spike Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005 Location: In front of my PC Guild: Kai Profession: E/Mo	Where in the OP did it says i have to attack lvl 20's or they can't be less resistant to fire than normal. Even then in 15 seconds or less as stated in the OP an Ele WILL out DPS ANYTHING.